Windows 7, Play To, and a Samsung DLNA enabled TV

This is a love story. Sometimes diving off the technology cliff means you follow your heart and take a chance on emerging/converging standards. When my nine year old once upon a time bleeding edge first of its kind 45 inch front projection component only HDTV developed the purple blotchies, I knew it was well past time to replace it. It was an ugly beast as well.

I did a fair amount of online research and put three HD TVs on my “see and compare” list based on features. The best features were on a Samsung 52 inch LN52B750 that also happened to be on sale for $600 off at the time. The picture quality from High Def sources is absolutely stunning. Breathtaking. I was hooked. And there was a LOT of icing on the cake to go along with a superb TV.

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Old TV before the attack of the  Purple Blotchies

New Samsung LN52B750

Reading all the user guides which were available on line (to get a good idea of features and performance) really focused me on the Samsung because in addition to all the jacks you’d ever want (4 HDMI, 2 Component, 2 USB, PC, Ethernet, optical digital sound in and out plus some legacy analog ports) it looked to have full DLNA 1.5 support. DLNA “server” software is supplied with the TV (and is downloadable online from Samsung’s support site) but my instincts told me that this TV should work with Windows 7 native DLNA “Play To” support. And I was right on the money.

In my opinion, the Play To/Streaming enhancements in Windows 7 are some of the coolest new features in Windows 7. The team responsible for this work has an extensive blog post at http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/05/12/media-streaming-with-windows-7.aspx which explains and showcases the technologies involved. It’s really about an ecosystem of smart, transparently connected devices and this is something I’ve been passionate about for several years.  With Windows 7, we’ve reached a real break through. Anyone, novices included, should be able to use and have fun with this technology set. It might give neighborhood geeks like me some free time back because a non geek can easily get it working.

The Samsung LN52B750 (and all the B750 line apparently) include a full set of DLNA 1.5 features. When I display the source list on the TV,  all of my DLNA 1.0 and 1.5 devices are auto detected and displayed. You can see part of this list below, but it also detected my WHS box and additional computers.

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Note that it this point, the Samsung TV does not appear to be able to pull the list of available shared media from my Windows 7 computers (or other sources). A folder structure is displayed, but no content is visible to pull and stream. However, using Play To on a host Windows 7 machine (PUSH technology) works beautifully. Perhaps future firmware updates from Samsung will enable “pull”. I hope so!

This TV is all about connectivity, including the Internet. The Samsung TV has onboard Ethernet and accepts a Samsung 802.11n wireless USB adapter. Out of the box, there are some Yahoo Widgets, including YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook. Samsung has done a great job with this. Hit the Internet button on the remote and you’re off and running. You can sign in with a existing Yahoo account, too. There is a handy on screen button to run TV in a smaller window while the Widgets, etc. display. You can toggle back and forth. I’ve already used the connection to pull down a firmware upgrade for the TV itself. Another “well done” for Samsung.

I have a fairly sophisticated home network. Everything here is dual homed. One network is Wireless N (both 2.4 and 5 GHz) plus GigE wired Ethernet, and a second network is MoCA plus N. MoCA is short for multi media over COAX. 

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W7’s Network & Sharing Center displaying my dual homed network

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W7 Network Map of one network segment. The line along the bottom is the second network.

I’ve got desktops, laptops, digital picture frames, NAS boxes, wireless access points and of course my new Samsung TV networked.  Below is a partial view of my networked home (some devices are not powered on all the time).

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Barb’s Home Network 

Did I mention that my new TV includes a wired Ethernet jack and can accept an 802.11n (2.4 GHz) special USB adapter? Samsung offers a wireless 802.11n USB adapter as an accessory. It is powered by a Ralink 2880 radio. I was hoping that any wireless N USB adapter would work since I have a bucketful of those here, but only the Samsung branded one will function. Samsung supports Windows Connect Now (WCN) via push button and of course you can manually configure the wireless network. It’s fast and easy to set up.

You can access the settings for media streaming options from several places on a Windows 7 computer. One way to do this is from the Network Window. Right click the device (TV in this case) and then select Media streaming options from the shortcut menu that displays.

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From the Media streaming options window you can then specify w
hat permissions to set for each computer and device. This is very easy and intuitive.

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Once permissions are enabled, it’s time to have a LOT of fun.

From within Windows Explorer, if there is an available device on the network, right clicking a media file or a group of selected media files invokes a shortcut menu that offers Play To as a choice.

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Once you’ve sent media on its way using this method, a Play To window opens with a list of the items selected. You can drag and drop additional content into this window and even mix and match images, music, recorded TV (non protected). 

 

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On the TV, the incoming streamed content is auto sensed and auto displayed. You’ll see some meta data briefly as shown below.

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The meta data header will then disappear and you’ll get a nicely displayed image.

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The same technique works for music files, at least for MP3’s. I was not able to send WMA ripped music using Play To. Microsoft has put me in touch with Samsung, and they are investigating. Samsung obviously wants to get this right and I’m hopeful that this will be fixed with a firmware update. Note that since I’m running sound through a Home Theater Receiver, I do have to switch the receiver to a different audio input. I ran a digital optical cable from the TV to the receiver and that handles the sound streamed over the network perfectly.

I’ve saved the best (in my mind anyway) for last. And that is Recorded TV from Windows Media Center. Frankly speaking, I was VERY surprised at the support for this. Both dvr-ms and wtv formats ARE supported. It is important to note that only non protected (non DRM’d) recorded TV will work. I hope Microsoft can change this severe limitation, because this is a kickass feature and then some. I’d also like to see Play To supported inside the Windows Media Center interface itself.

In the image below, I’ve right clicked an episode of Stargate Atlantis (non protected recording from the Sci Fi – now Sy Fy – channel), And once again, Play To (TV) appears as a choice.

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My mouth dropped to the floor and I was speechless when this actually worked (see screenshot below). I think this is the future and  that I’ve found a time machine.

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It takes a lot to get me excited and I’m VERY excited about this technology. My virtual hat is tipped to Microsoft for the slick implementation and to Samsung for being visionary and being one of the first to embrace this very cool convergent world.

And if you have read this far, I have two recommendations for you. The first is to upgrade to Windows 7 just as soon as you can and the second is, if you are shopping for a new HDTV, the Samsung B750 line will rock your world.

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4 thoughts on “Windows 7, Play To, and a Samsung DLNA enabled TV

  1. Wow,
    I stumbled upon your post as there in very little info about the Samsung Dlna and how it works. This truly is an exciting glimpse into the future.
    We are looking to use the Samsung as a digital signage panel and as such will mainly deliver images to the screen. Are you able to tell me:
    1. if there are transitions available between images on via the Samsung firmware?
    2. if the header information displays as each image is displayed if you have a number of images selected.
    3. if you can put this on “repeat”, so the same selection of images would just run all day – aka digital signage
    4. How well a 4:3 generated image from a digital camera looks on the 16:9 screen.
    5. What resolution the images are being displayed at is it fullHD – what do you think it is doing?
    6. From your understanding – could I potentially have a number of panels and “Play to” these
    7. Any other comments you can give me related to the display of image would be greatly appreciated.
    We have been looking at a system suggested by an AV consultant that can only output one “channel” so all screens would display the same content via a split VGA cable. The DLNA solution seems to be a couple of steps ahead in terms of distribution of separate channels – so I am keen to know how well it really goes.
    Regards,
    Jarrod

    1. Jarrod,
      1. if there are transitions available between images on via the Samsung firmware? No. The TV displays what is sent to it from W7 with no transitions.
      2. if the header information displays as each image is displayed if you have a number of images selected. Header displays briefly for each and then fades out.
      3. if you can put this on “repeat”, so the same selection of images would just run all day – aka digital signage – Yes – Play To has a repeat function.
      4. How well a 4:3 generated image from a digital camera looks on the 16:9 screen. Images are displayed at same proportions. Framed in “black”. So any proportion looks pretty good.
      5. What resolution the images are being displayed at is it fullHD – what do you think it is doing? – I think the TV displays whatever it is sent.
      6. From your understanding – could I potentially have a number of panels and “Play to” these 7. Any other comments you can give me related to the display of image would be greatly appreciated. You should be able to stream to multiple devices simultaneously.

  2. I have just purchased the LN52B750 and called Samsung to see if there was a way to record whatever is playing on the television. They didn’t know. I googled a few keywords and this article came up. I am very impressed with this capability. Why buy a separate recording device if I can capture films (dvd or cable) and save to my external drive and run them whenever I want.
    You’re saying that upgrading to Windows 7 will give me this capability. Yes? I have a wireless connection from the Samsung through my wireless router to my Vista machine and can play dvd’s and movies from my computer. Will the Windows 7 upgrade allow me to view what is playing on the television on my computer?
    Thanks for a great article.
    Clint

    1. Clint,
      The TV itself cannot record what is playing on the television from cable, antenna, etc. Windows 7 with Windows Media Center, a TV Tuner is what you need to record TV. If the show you record is not copy protected, you can stream it to the TV with Windows Media Center in Windows 7. You can’t send what you are watching on the TV to the computer.

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